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  1. [16:20:19] <steelgolem> in what way is idea creation mechanical man
  2. [16:20:26] <steelgolem> no i simply cannot agree
  3. [16:20:37] <steelgolem> [13:56:23] <Cyber-Wire> interviews I've seen with skilled comedians. they basically learned the algorithm to make a crowd laugh. and not just forced, they indeed enjoy the moment.
  4. [16:20:38] <steelgolem> no
  5. [16:20:42] <steelgolem> i'm not letting you get away with this
  6. [16:21:06] <steelgolem> we are not creating entertainment for the general monkey masses who get a couple of drinks in them and get laughing at dick jokes
  7. [16:21:33] <steelgolem> you don't even need skill to make a crowd laugh
  8. [16:22:00] <steelgolem> lol that chrome extension name
  9. [16:22:54] <steelgolem> ok now reading your comments on my comments on the log
  10. [16:24:02] <steelgolem> [16:19:03] <Cyber-Wire> sorry for that pill comment, that was rude - seemed like you barged into the room all drunk xdddd
  11. [16:24:09] <steelgolem> i've got broad shoulders, don't worry aobut it :3
  12. [16:24:39] <steelgolem> maybe thinking about all these things as skills works for you?
  13. [16:25:02] <steelgolem> it absolutely doesn't for me because if it did then i could just literally spend time punching a wall and i'd be a professional
  14. [16:25:16] <steelgolem> skill doesn't imply understanding
  15. [16:25:22] <steelgolem> skill only implies that you have muscle memory of it
  16. [16:25:32] <steelgolem> i have no use for muscle memory on any of this
  17. [16:25:34] <steelgolem> i don't want it
  18. [16:26:01] <steelgolem> i want to understand it so i can do it more skillfully through logical reasoning
  19. [16:26:24] <steelgolem> and undersatnding one thing leads to understanding something related directly to it
  20. [16:26:46] <steelgolem> so at some point i'll have a working understanding of all the things i need to create the things i want, including understanding myself
  21. [16:27:17] <steelgolem> tony taka is extremely skilled as an artist
  22. [16:27:28] <steelgolem> but i don't say his art is interesting
  23. [16:27:39] <steelgolem> they're very different things
  24. [16:27:58] <steelgolem> his accomplishments and net worth are meaningless in the context i'm trying to express to you
  25. [16:34:49] <steelgolem> i'm not going to tell you that making things for profit is wrong and bad
  26. [16:35:06] <steelgolem> and i certainly won't discourage you from it, should you become successful in your own content creation
  27. [16:35:25] <steelgolem> but i 100% honestly don't care about making money or fame from mine
  28. [16:35:47] <steelgolem> and i consider those things useless noise when it comes to motivating forces
  29. [16:37:08] <steelgolem> so you consider touhou to be completely and solely zun's and anything anyone else has made without his nintendo seal of approval is not in any way canon or even important from a canon point of view
  30. [16:37:19] <steelgolem> so what do we do with comic books?
  31. [16:37:29] <steelgolem> anything stan lee didn't directly have a hand in, is not canon?
  32. [16:37:57] <steelgolem> none of the star wars movies lucas wasn't a main part of is not canon?
  33. [16:38:16] <steelgolem> are these bad examples because those people will never make another in the series?
  34. [16:38:22] <steelgolem> but what if they did?
  35. [16:39:23] <steelgolem> only the things the original content creator indirectly says are canon - by reference in his own works afterwards - count?
  36. [16:39:51] <steelgolem> is it because you want to stick very strictly to the very definition of canon?
  37. [16:40:16] <steelgolem> i'm not going to say this to be offensive, but rather as an observation about something i don't know anything about yet
  38. [16:40:51] <steelgolem> does the jewish culture so value "law" that it affects all the things they think about?
  39. [16:42:03] <steelgolem> i guess it's a problem that i have with language that every meaning for every word is NOT set in stone
  40. [16:42:21] <steelgolem> and we all have our own sense of the meanings of words
  41. [16:42:47] <steelgolem> and you can run to dictionaries all you want and go "THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS" and perhaps even that everyone in the known world accepts this word as meaning this very specific thing
  42. [16:43:07] <steelgolem> but i have a different sense of "prince of darkness" than literally everyone else in the world
  43. [16:43:16] <steelgolem> and that's not going to change
  44. [16:43:45] <steelgolem> i can't write fast enough or completely enough all the things going through my head about all of this
  45. [16:44:00] <steelgolem> so i'm sorry you're getting a very clipped version that seems to wander
  46. [16:44:36] <steelgolem> canon to me has to do with the thing as a whole
  47. [16:44:49] <steelgolem> you cannot retcon canon
  48. [16:45:13] <steelgolem> because canon is waht the majority (or even just me, fuck the public opinion) accepts as the correct version of things
  49. [16:45:21] <steelgolem> it doesn't matter what the original creator did
  50. [16:45:22] <steelgolem> OR
  51. [16:45:33] <steelgolem> only what the original creator did is the canon
  52. [16:45:42] <steelgolem> and everything not by the creator isn't the canon
  53. [16:45:43] <steelgolem> OR
  54. [16:45:51] <steelgolem> everything the creator says is the canon
  55. [16:45:54] <steelgolem> OR
  56. [16:46:00] <steelgolem> there are so many ways to look at it
  57. [16:46:23] <steelgolem> whatever fits how you think of things the best is what is canon to me
  58. [16:46:31] <steelgolem> that means differing opinions on canon
  59. [16:46:39] <steelgolem> let the people do battle!
  60. [16:48:03] <steelgolem> canon's only constant is "acceptable correct version"
  61. [16:49:19] <steelgolem> your definition of canon ignores the fact that OC's opinions change over time, and ignores the OC's intent by making statements about the content
  62. [16:49:54] <steelgolem> how do you feel about retcons?
  63. [16:50:37] <steelgolem> what do you do to deal with inconsistencies in your definition of canon, or the OC outright forgetting something and fucking things up?
  64. [16:51:15] <steelgolem> the inflexibility of hard definitions about things is highly questionable
  65. [16:51:32] <steelgolem> i want to make definitions too but i make them with the understanding that they may change
  66. [16:52:39] <steelgolem> another issue i take with your definition of canon is that multiple interpretations can exist despite people using the same exact "facts"
  67. [16:53:05] <steelgolem> i don't know why i'm going on and on about this
  68. [16:53:25] <steelgolem> someone tried to convince me that i was wrong about how i saw "cult status" of things
  69. [16:53:35] <steelgolem> and was trying to convince me that star trek had a cult following
  70. [16:53:56] <steelgolem> people have very strange opinions of things
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